ViiKiing Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 (edited) Whats up everybody!Been at it for a little over 5 months of weight training with the help of my bad ass friend & trainer.Beginning weight = 126Current weight = 135 I'll post before pics then afters.Is there a way to add more than 3 attachments?? Peace,Oscar Edited April 10, 2013 by ViiKiing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SunWarrior Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Dude nice progress, Youve gained alot of lean muscle and you don't seem to have added any body fat. Keep up the great work man, and never stop pushing yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViiKiing Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 Thanks SunWarrior! It'll be a lifelong journey but I've loving every bit of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Aspirant Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Hey Viikiing- nice work! and like SunWarrior said, keep at it! Bodybuilding/fitness is a lifestyle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViiKiing Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Thanks Aspirant!By the way, that's gotta be the best signature i've seen on here so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Aspirant Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Thanks Aspirant!By the way, that's gotta be the best signature i've seen on here so far! Lol I made it after being told by quite a few people "I should be careful not to become too masculine". Actually I *just* got an FB update by a friend about how "I'm looking good now bust shouldn't become bigger than this"... Too funny. Also dig your LOL pics, but seriously mutant muscle development is the way to go! Personally it can never become too big for me as long as it's natural. I don't know what your specific goal is, but the bigger buffer look is definitely complimentary on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compassion Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Great work dude keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViiKiing Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 Lol I made it after being told by quite a few people "I should be careful not to become too masculine". Actually I *just* got an FB update by a friend about how "I'm looking good now bust shouldn't become bigger than this"... Too funny. Also dig your LOL pics, but seriously mutant muscle development is the way to go! Personally it can never become too big for me as long as it's natural. I don't know what your specific goal is, but the bigger buffer look is definitely complimentary on you Yea the world would be better if gender binaries were challenged more often. "Too masculine." WOW "shouldn't become bigger than this." HILARIOUSI'm guessing they are becoming threatened by your physique. I know some buff females and my male friends are like "man...it doesn't look good". What they really mean is, "i'm insecure that she can lift more than me and run farther than i can."People are supposed to be strong!! and for the majority of human existence, males/females have been. Keep challenging the skinny/weak stereotype, thats dope! Thanks! My goals are somewhere around 160 lean-ish. I'm sitting at 135-140 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViiKiing Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 Great work dude keep it up! Thanks Evan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Aspirant Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Well personal preferences are personal preferences and to each their own (my personal preferences probably don't go down well with a lot of guys either), but I just don't get guys who're threatened by women who lift heavier than them. That's just illogical considering the amount strength hormones they have comparative to us. My philosophy on that is: Man up and lift heavier if you've got a problem with women lifting heavier than you lol. Anyway 'nuff about that Thanks! My goals are somewhere around 160 lean-ish. I'm sitting at 135-140 now. So you want to keep your current bodyfat % and add 20-25 lbs of lean mass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViiKiing Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 So you want to keep your current bodyfat % and add 20-25 lbs of lean mass? Yea that would be ideal but it's gonna be hard. I might have to bulk up past 160 then lean out to get to the ideal body fat. We'll see though! Putting on weight is insanely hard because of my metabolism/being vegan. I can lose 10lbs in like 3 weeks, but only gain 1lb in like 2-3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Aspirant Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 So you want to keep your current bodyfat % and add 20-25 lbs of lean mass? Yea that would be ideal but it's gonna be hard. I might have to bulk up past 160 then lean out to get to the ideal body fat. We'll see though! Putting on weight is insanely hard because of my metabolism/being vegan. I can lose 10lbs in like 3 weeks, but only gain 1lb in like 2-3 weeks. I find that guys who have a hard time putting on weight usually experience this "problem" (I'd happily trade places with you) due to a relatively high metabolism AND little food intake. Like 1500-2000 kcal a day and these are *grown* men. I get what you're saying though - it can be hard on a vegan diet, but that's typically if you're eating clean and/or doing a raw diet as well. Personally I find it hard *not* to exceed my 3500-4000 kcal a day, even post veganism lol. But then again I eat a lot of vegan sweets and maybe 150-200 grams of nuts a day, aside from a lot of rich in calorie legumes like red kidney beans and chick peas. Oh yeah and lots of bread. Perhaps that could work for you too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViiKiing Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 I find that guys who have a hard time putting on weight usually experience this "problem" (I'd happily trade places with you) due to a relatively high metabolism AND little food intake. Like 1500-2000 kcal a day and these are *grown* men. I get what you're saying though - it can be hard on a vegan diet, but that's typically if you're eating clean and/or doing a raw diet as well. Personally I find it hard *not* to exceed my 3500-4000 kcal a day, even post veganism lol. But then again I eat a lot of vegan sweets and maybe 150-200 grams of nuts a day, aside from a lot of rich in calorie legumes like red kidney beans and chick peas. Oh yeah and lots of bread. Perhaps that could work for you too? Hahaha for sure, yea pretty much everyone I talk to goes, "wait what? you want to gain weight?"I eat pretty clean; mostly veggies, legumes, grains, fruits, nuts, seeds and a LOT of non-soy vegan protein (hemp/pea/rice blend). Usually 160-180g of protein and 2500-3000 calories daily. I was doing lots of bread but I think i'm allergic to gluten Maybe i should aim for more calories..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.O. Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Great progress, especially in the back muscles. That last pic is hilarious too btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Aspirant Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I find that guys who have a hard time putting on weight usually experience this "problem" (I'd happily trade places with you) due to a relatively high metabolism AND little food intake. Like 1500-2000 kcal a day and these are *grown* men. I get what you're saying though - it can be hard on a vegan diet, but that's typically if you're eating clean and/or doing a raw diet as well. Personally I find it hard *not* to exceed my 3500-4000 kcal a day, even post veganism lol. But then again I eat a lot of vegan sweets and maybe 150-200 grams of nuts a day, aside from a lot of rich in calorie legumes like red kidney beans and chick peas. Oh yeah and lots of bread. Perhaps that could work for you too? Hahaha for sure, yea pretty much everyone I talk to goes, "wait what? you want to gain weight?"I eat pretty clean; mostly veggies, legumes, grains, fruits, nuts, seeds and a LOT of non-soy vegan protein (hemp/pea/rice blend). Usually 160-180g of protein and 2500-3000 calories daily. I was doing lots of bread but I think i'm allergic to gluten Maybe i should aim for more calories..? Lol 2500 kcal is a cut season for me. Well depends on your activity level, I mean you don't want to lose too much leanness (is that a word?) either. Try logging your daily intake for about a month and try to calculate your daily maintenance intake after. Assuming it is e.g. 2700, add 500 kcal to it and bounce it up to 3200 kcal/day. Or if you want to do a slow more qualitative bulk, add 300 kcal to your daily intake instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViiKiing Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Lol 2500 kcal is a cut season for me. Well depends on your activity level, I mean you don't want to lose too much leanness (is that a word?) either. Try logging your daily intake for about a month and try to calculate your daily maintenance intake after. Assuming it is e.g. 2700, add 500 kcal to it and bounce it up to 3200 kcal/day. Or if you want to do a slow more qualitative bulk, add 300 kcal to your daily intake instead.That's a good idea, I've logged it for a couple weeks or so before and it was 2800, i think i'll add 400 for a while and see what happens. I'm going to be full all day lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellar Yeti Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Yea that would be ideal but it's gonna be hard. I might have to bulk up past 160 then lean out to get to the ideal body fat. We'll see though! Putting on weight is insanely hard because of my metabolism/being vegan. I can lose 10lbs in like 3 weeks, but only gain 1lb in like 2-3 weeks. In my opinion it's easier just to stuff your face and then deal with body fat later. But then I am a rare case and eating 4,000-5,000kcal a day of wholesome clean Vegan food barely adds any weight to me; let alone body fat. You would be surprised at your caloric requirements weightlifting and under eating can actually cause you to become flabbier because you tank your metabolism. I know I do. It'll also slow or halt your gains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViiKiing Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 In my opinion it's easier just to stuff your face and then deal with body fat later. But then I am a rare case and eating 4,000-5,000kcal a day of wholesome clean Vegan food barely adds any weight to me; let alone body fat. You would be surprised at your caloric requirements weightlifting and under eating can actually cause you to become flabbier because you tank your metabolism. I know I do. It'll also slow or halt your gains.Damn 4,000-5,000kcal!! I don't think I can eat that much without throwing up. I'm already stuffed as is with 2800-3000. How much do you weigh? Maybe I should trust my metabolism more but I definitely don't want to put unnecessary food in my system and just get gain fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellar Yeti Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 In my opinion it's easier just to stuff your face and then deal with body fat later. But then I am a rare case and eating 4,000-5,000kcal a day of wholesome clean Vegan food barely adds any weight to me; let alone body fat. You would be surprised at your caloric requirements weightlifting and under eating can actually cause you to become flabbier because you tank your metabolism. I know I do. It'll also slow or halt your gains.Damn 4,000-5,000kcal!! I don't think I can eat that much without throwing up. I'm already stuffed as is with 2800-3000. How much do you weigh? Maybe I should trust my metabolism more but I definitely don't want to put unnecessary food in my system and just get gain fat. I'm 5'6 155lbs. There was a time when eating just 2,500 and then 3,000kcal was very difficult for me. It's very unpleasant but after a while your stomach stretches and you can accommodate more food. I have a very fast metabolism and I am reaching the upper limits of my genetic potential. It's important to listen to your body and develop instinctive eating habits and pay attention to your bodies signals. People focus on calories way too much in my opinion. You body knows best and if you allow it to it'll guide you to a proper eating regime. Go into the gym and give it the beans; go all out and hold nothing back. Eat what you're normally eating and if your gains stop or slow increase the food intake; if you have trouble back off and try again. Healthy food fuels us and to a certain extent you need to push the limits a bit. It's all about listening to the ques your body gives you; it knows best. I didn't go out and start eating massive amounts, but my gains slowed so I started forcing more food and my body accommodated and accepted this. To a certain extent you will need to push your comfort zone but your body will do the rest. Just remember if you're really throttling it in the gym you're creating an intense anabolic state and calories can more easily be assimilated. So really give it the all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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